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	<title>Comments on: Cloud Computing vs. SOA:  Look for a cross-over in hype</title>
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		<title>By: Wayne Parks</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/07/cloud-computing-vs-soa-look-for-a-cross-over-in-hype/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, the trend seems intuitively obvious but as you state, it is truly dependent on the varying definitions of SOA and Cloud Computing.  I am finding that understanding the definitions coming from the various professional markets determines the distinguishing factors between SOA and Cloud Computing.  One credential that both must have is a flexible operating environment for the users (whomever they may be).  In the end, the users must be able to operate freely without disruption to their mission and functions.  This is critical to all definitions.  Thanks, Wayne </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, the trend seems intuitively obvious but as you state, it is truly dependent on the varying definitions of SOA and Cloud Computing.  I am finding that understanding the definitions coming from the various professional markets determines the distinguishing factors between SOA and Cloud Computing.  One credential that both must have is a flexible operating environment for the users (whomever they may be).  In the end, the users must be able to operate freely without disruption to their mission and functions.  This is critical to all definitions.  Thanks, Wayne</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Gourley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Gourley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brandon, that is good context and much appreciated.   
  
Bob </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brandon, that is good context and much appreciated.   </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Bohling</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/07/cloud-computing-vs-soa-look-for-a-cross-over-in-hype/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Bohling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to the SOA hype, I commonly witness people engaging in SOA-based implementations before really embracing (and comprehending) the real &quot;meat&quot;...the methodology and patterns. Without appropriate vendor/technology agnostic planning and designing, implementations will fail just the same as in the past, especially from an enterprise perspective. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the SOA hype, I commonly witness people engaging in SOA-based implementations before really embracing (and comprehending) the real &quot;meat&quot;&#8230;the methodology and patterns. Without appropriate vendor/technology agnostic planning and designing, implementations will fail just the same as in the past, especially from an enterprise perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Gourley</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/07/cloud-computing-vs-soa-look-for-a-cross-over-in-hype/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Gourley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 02:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joe.  That focus on the mission is something that was driven into me in the fleet and I still believe it now.  I&#039;ll get you my list of top cloud IT players.  It would be good to chat with you about that someday.  
  
 
  
Bob </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe.  That focus on the mission is something that was driven into me in the fleet and I still believe it now.  I&#039;ll get you my list of top cloud IT players.  It would be good to chat with you about that someday.  </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Mazzafro</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/07/cloud-computing-vs-soa-look-for-a-cross-over-in-hype/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Mazzafro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Bob.  To many in the IC believe SOA is just the enterprise buss, but you don&#039;t get effective SOA without orchestration which demands knowing what you are trying to do with your capabilities.  Same for Cloud  ----  what is it you want Cloud Computing do.  That should drive decision about Cloud implementation ------  not some as yet incomplete definition for cloud computing or adherence to some externally derived reference architecture.  And yes I would like your list of top cloud IT players     thanks    joemaz </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Bob.  To many in the IC believe SOA is just the enterprise buss, but you don&#039;t get effective SOA without orchestration which demands knowing what you are trying to do with your capabilities.  Same for Cloud  &#8212;-  what is it you want Cloud Computing do.  That should drive decision about Cloud implementation &#8212;&#8212;  not some as yet incomplete definition for cloud computing or adherence to some externally derived reference architecture.  And yes I would like your list of top cloud IT players     thanks    joemaz</p>
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