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	<title>Comments on: Towards a Cyber Deterrent: Are we getting any closer?</title>
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		<title>By: david ronfeldt</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/11/towards-a-cyber-deterrent-are-we-getting-any-closer/#comment-4953</link>
		<dc:creator>david ronfeldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tim steven&#039;s ubiwar blog led me here.  what i was hoping for was moroe clarification about how best to organize, formally and informally, for cyber defense.  your paper makes passing reference to assembling efforts by &quot;a broad swath of experts in industry, academia and government&quot; and from &quot;Cross-functional, cross-discipline, public and private intellectual work&quot;.  but otherwise this organizational design aspect is unclear.  i  don&#039;t have the answer, but i tried to offer some points here, for what they&#039;re worth:

http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-collaborative-community-for.html

a main point is that the overall design should include a lot more than just key government and big industry actors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tim steven&#8217;s ubiwar blog led me here.  what i was hoping for was moroe clarification about how best to organize, formally and informally, for cyber defense.  your paper makes passing reference to assembling efforts by &#8220;a broad swath of experts in industry, academia and government&#8221; and from &#8220;Cross-functional, cross-discipline, public and private intellectual work&#8221;.  but otherwise this organizational design aspect is unclear.  i  don&#8217;t have the answer, but i tried to offer some points here, for what they&#8217;re worth:</p>
<p><a href="http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-collaborative-community-for.html" rel="nofollow">http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-collaborative-community-for.html</a></p>
<p>a main point is that the overall design should include a lot more than just key government and big industry actors.</p>
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		<title>By: david ronfeldt</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/11/towards-a-cyber-deterrent-are-we-getting-any-closer/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>david ronfeldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tim steven&#039;s ubiwar blog led me here.  what i was hoping for was moroe clarification about how best to organize, formally and informally, for cyber defense.  your paper makes passing reference to assembling efforts by &quot;a broad swath of experts in industry, academia and government&quot; and from &quot;Cross-functional, cross-discipline, public and private intellectual work&quot;.  but otherwise this organizational design aspect is unclear.  i  don&#039;t have the answer, but i tried to offer some points here, for what they&#039;re worth:&lt;a href=&quot;http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-collaborative-community-for.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-.....&lt;/a&gt;a main point is that the overall design should include a lot more than just key government and big industry actors. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tim steven&#039;s ubiwar blog led me here.  what i was hoping for was moroe clarification about how best to organize, formally and informally, for cyber defense.  your paper makes passing reference to assembling efforts by &quot;a broad swath of experts in industry, academia and government&quot; and from &quot;Cross-functional, cross-discipline, public and private intellectual work&quot;.  but otherwise this organizational design aspect is unclear.  i  don&#039;t have the answer, but i tried to offer some points here, for what they&#039;re worth:<a href="http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-collaborative-community-for.html" rel="nofollow">http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-&#8230;..</a>a main point is that the overall design should include a lot more than just key government and big industry actors.</p>
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		<title>By: david ronfeldt</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/11/towards-a-cyber-deterrent-are-we-getting-any-closer/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>david ronfeldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tim steven&#039;s ubiwar blog led me here.  what i was hoping for was moroe clarification about how best to organize, formally and informally, for cyber defense.  your paper makes passing reference to assembling efforts by &quot;a broad swath of experts in industry, academia and government&quot; and from &quot;Cross-functional, cross-discipline, public and private intellectual work&quot;.  but otherwise this organizational design aspect is unclear.  i  don&#039;t have the answer, but i tried to offer some points here, for what they&#039;re worth:&lt;a href=&quot;http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-collaborative-community-for.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-.....&lt;/a&gt;a main point is that the overall design should include a lot more than just key government and big industry actors. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tim steven&#039;s ubiwar blog led me here.  what i was hoping for was moroe clarification about how best to organize, formally and informally, for cyber defense.  your paper makes passing reference to assembling efforts by &quot;a broad swath of experts in industry, academia and government&quot; and from &quot;Cross-functional, cross-discipline, public and private intellectual work&quot;.  but otherwise this organizational design aspect is unclear.  i  don&#039;t have the answer, but i tried to offer some points here, for what they&#039;re worth:<a href="http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-collaborative-community-for.html" rel="nofollow">http://twotheories.blogspot.com/2009/07/toward-&#8230;..</a>a main point is that the overall design should include a lot more than just key government and big industry actors.</p>
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		<title>By: Burying Nitze &#124; Haft of the Spear</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/11/towards-a-cyber-deterrent-are-we-getting-any-closer/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Burying Nitze &#124; Haft of the Spear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] old friend and colleague Bob Gourley asks if we are any closer to achieving a cyber deterrence policy. I say: stop burning CPU cycles focusing on a narrow set of legacy futures or start developing new [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] old friend and colleague Bob Gourley asks if we are any closer to achieving a cyber deterrence policy. I say: stop burning CPU cycles focusing on a narrow set of legacy futures or start developing new [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Gourley</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/11/towards-a-cyber-deterrent-are-we-getting-any-closer/#comment-4947</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Gourley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dunsany for the link.  I tend to agree that the counter intel model has been undersupported and I appreciate your comment and the brief at the link.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dunsany for the link.  I tend to agree that the counter intel model has been undersupported and I appreciate your comment and the brief at the link.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the answer lies in a different direction for cyber-deterrence - more of a counter-intelligence model.  http://www.iedtalk.com/2009/07/slides-and-notes.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the answer lies in a different direction for cyber-deterrence &#8211; more of a counter-intelligence model.  <a href="http://www.iedtalk.com/2009/07/slides-and-notes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.iedtalk.com/2009/07/slides-and-notes.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: ctovision</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/11/towards-a-cyber-deterrent-are-we-getting-any-closer/#comment-452</link>
		<dc:creator>ctovision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dunsany for the link.  I tend to agree that the counter intel model has been undersupported and I appreciate your comment and the brief at the link.  Thanks! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dunsany for the link.  I tend to agree that the counter intel model has been undersupported and I appreciate your comment and the brief at the link.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: dunsany</title>
		<link>http://ctovision.com/2009/11/towards-a-cyber-deterrent-are-we-getting-any-closer/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>dunsany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the answer lies in a different direction for cyber-deterrence - more of a counter-intelligence model.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iedtalk.com/2009/07/slides-and-notes.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.iedtalk.com/2009/07/slides-and-notes.....&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the answer lies in a different direction for cyber-deterrence &#8211; more of a counter-intelligence model.  <a href="http://www.iedtalk.com/2009/07/slides-and-notes.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.iedtalk.com/2009/07/slides-and-notes&#8230;..</a></p>
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